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EXPLOSIVE NEW EVIDENCE PROVES MARS LANDING IS A HOAX!

August 11, 2012

SHOCKING NEW PHOTOS LEAKED!! Production crew prepare to film “Mars Landing” in the Nevada desert.

  • Explosive new photos reveal secret “movie set” for staged “Mars Landing”.
  • So-called “Mars landing” was filmed entirely in Nevada.
  • The whole thing is a modern-day Judeo conspiracy!

***ANOTHER STUNNING GUTTER TRASH EXCLUSIVE REPORT***

Following on from our recent report exposing the so-called “Mars landing” of the land rover “Curiosity” as an elaborate hoax, we have been inundated with phone calls and emails from concerned citizens like you, who are similarly outraged at this monumental waste of hardworking taxpayers’ dollars being spent on the greatest hoax of our time purely designed to re-elect Barack Obama and distract attention away from the perilous state of the US economy, rampant unemployment and civil unrest.

IT’S A DISGRACE!

But the horror doesn’t end there. No it does not. With thanks to our exclusive sources, we can reveal that the entire NASA “mission to Mars” is an elaborate modern-day judeo conspiracy designed to destroy Christianity and our way life.

And it goes all the way to the top right to the President’s office. From the ranks of lowly NASA employees sworn to secrecy, to Hollywood movie directors paid millions to produce and direct the so-called “landing sequence” broadcast to millions of households across the globe.

And we’ve got the evidence to prove it!

But first, some background.   We all know that interstellar travel is impossible. NASA inadvertently admitted that fact on its own web site. The fact is that no man has ever travelled further than 300 miles beyond the surface of the Earth.

The tremendous radiation encountered in the Van Allen Belt, solar radiation, cosmic radiation, temperature control, and many other problems connected with space travel prevent living organisms leaving our atmosphere with our known level of technology.  It’s scientifically and technologically impossible. As such no man has ever orbited, landed on, or walked upon the moon.

To make interstellar travel appear believable NASA was created. The Apollo Space Program created the idea that man could travel to and walk upon the surface of the moon.

Up until now, every Apollo mission has been carefully rehearsed and then filmed in a large sound stage at the Atomic Energy Commissions Top Secret test site in the Nevada Desert.

Post-production facilities housing state-of-the-art Computer Generated Imagery (CGI) technology and advanced HD digital animation specialists are located in a secondary studio in a secured and guarded basement at the Pixar studios in Emeryville, California. Pixar are the developers of their proprietary software system RenderMan, a hi-tech computer animated rendering system that produces high quality, photorealistic image synthesis that is practically indistinguishable from “reality”.

BUT WHY THE ELABORATE HOAX?

Because they want to destroy our way of life!  They are determined to destroy Christianity by declaring that alien life exists. But first of course, they need “the proof” and will stop at nothing to deceive the public with their evil lies and deception.

Remember, big money is behind all this.

BIG MONEY IS BEHIND ALL THIS!

The groundwork is already being laid by NASA/Barry Goldstein et al and by Hollywood/Steven Spielberg et al and by Zionist PSY-OP agencies of “crop circle” builders and UFO Shysters like Steven Greer.

Why do you think the so-called “Mars rover” bears a striking resemblance to Pixar’s animated character “Wall – E?”

They were laying the groundwork, indoctrinating youngsters and the unwitting public with a loveable character that we welcomed with open arms into our hearts and minds.

But now, we are about to be betrayed.

WHO WILL THINK OF THE CHILDREN?

NASA is trying to convince us that there is life on Mars or some other planet. And who better to deliver that message than their fabricated robot that resembles a friendly cartoon character.

We need to wise up to the scam that’s unfolding.

When their fabricated “proof” of alien life finally emerges, you can be sure that the ‘Extraterrestrials’ will be carefully and almost certainly publicised as our founding fathers, thereby usurping the role of God. They will be positioned as transcendent beings that are superior to man. They know what we don’t know, see what we don’t see, and can solve what we can’t solve.

Second, they usurp the role of God as Creator. God is not our Father, the ‘Extraterrestrials’ are. Third, if they are our creators, then we must owe something to them. How about our souls, our hearts, and our allegiance?  Fourth, when the ‘alien messages’ are all put together, we find that their combined effect is the creation of a new religion.

Themes of transcendence, supernatural entities, spiritual evolution, and our ‘seeded’ origins all combine to form a new, religious outlook on life.

Ordinary people will be forced to rescind their religion, and adopt this new-found dogma or risk being mocked, ridiculed, bashed, or even put to death.

Who knows how this will unfold?

But fortunately we know the truth.  And with thanks to our EXCLUSIVE SOURCES we have the irrefutable proof to prove it.

THE EXPLOSIVE NEW PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE BEHIND THE MARS LANDING HOAX!!!

Here are the photos that the US Government and NASA don’t want you to see.  Leaked to The Gutter Trash from an anonymous whistleblower who knows what’s going on and is too scared to speak out.

Please share these with your friends and spread the word.  We don’t know how long we can keep them online.  Indeed the team here at The Gutter Trash are worried that we might be shut down once the authorities get onto this.

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT A:

Production crew prepare fake land rover for filming at Pixar’s secret post-production studios in California. Note inset image of Pixar’s “Wall E”. See the similarity?

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT B:

The fake land rover on the set in Nevada. A second model can be seen on the top right of the photo, in case this one breaks.

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT C:

Film crew prepare to go for a take.

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT D:

Production crew prepare fake rover for filming. Note the fake backdrop of the Mars landscape.

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT D:

Production crew “assemble” the land rover supposedly on the surface of Mars.

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT E:

The actual location where the so called “landing” occurred – the Nevada desert.

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT F:

The same photo of the Nevada desert above (after digital enhancement at Pixar Studios).

EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE: EXHIBIT G:

The final betrayal. NASA “experts” pass off fabricated photos as genuine.

 

 

 

283 Comments
  1. el gordo permalink
    August 11, 2012 7:35 pm

    The Americans don’t have a sense of irony like you lot.

  2. August 11, 2012 7:47 pm

    I knew it!

    The muslimcommunist president is really a reptilian. Instead of spending what it allegedly cost to actually send an unmanned ATV to barsoom, he’s really using the funds to build a clandestine portal to planet X in the ruins of the world trade centres.

    Only high level Operating Thetans can save us now.

    Also, there are six wheels on the fakebuggy & there are seven points on the star of david!

    Coincidence? I think not!

  3. CoverUp permalink
    August 11, 2012 8:00 pm

    Murdoch’s involved, obviously, which is why the Hate Media’s not reporting this.

  4. el gordo permalink
    August 11, 2012 8:05 pm

    Its clear from this clip that they are all Hollywood extras (happy to get the work) and at 1.38 the ‘lead guy’ gives the nod for self congratulations.

  5. Reservoir Pup permalink
    August 11, 2012 8:24 pm

    Thanks for the clip el gordo. It makes me sad to see how far the mighty Michael Madsen has fallen. Might have something to do with this . . .

    http://www.cbsnews.com/2300-207_162-583683-5.html?tag=page;next

  6. Reservoir Pup permalink
    August 11, 2012 8:33 pm

    I prefer to remember him like this . . .

    (Not safe for work or children)

  7. el gordo permalink
    August 11, 2012 8:53 pm

    ‘The supposed landing of the Curiosity was CGI and computer sound effects piped into mission control at JPL in order to fool the engineers, the invited guests, the media and the dumbed down public.

    ‘The real rover is in Nevada near Area-51 complete with a Hollywood backdrop standing in for the horizon and the color imaging being re-tuned to a red tint in order to make blue skies look pink and the brown desert soil look deep red.

    ‘It’s all FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!’

    Source…Godlike Productions

  8. August 11, 2012 9:32 pm

    “Source…Godlike Productions”

    Maybe. But they heard it here first!!

  9. August 11, 2012 9:54 pm

    Reporting from Nevada-51 Studios, my inside source who only wants to be identified as `Edwin` claims he is an actor who co-stars in the movie “Mars-Landing“. `Edwin` plays the part of the `second` cosmonaut to walk on Mars. He hopes to win the `Silver` Logie for supporting cast. Check out his movie promo photo.

  10. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 11, 2012 10:47 pm

    This photo seem real though.

  11. August 12, 2012 8:37 am

    “Check out his movie promo photo.”

    This is true 730 reportland. B grade Hollywood actors will do anything for money hese days.

  12. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2012 9:42 am

    Check out his movie promo photo.

    Is that a Martian’s head in, Buzzzzz’s, helmet or just a blown up orange condom?

    Tricks or titillations?

  13. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2012 9:46 am

    AND FINALLY! THE TRUTH! THE HOAX WAS A HOAX! …

    … HERE’S THE REAL HOAX TRUTH!

    AMERICAN IMPERIALISM AT ITS WORST …

  14. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2012 9:50 am

    MORE EVIDENCE HERE AND YOU’LL SEE THAT THE MARTIANS ARE RESORTING TO FOUL LANGUAGE ON THEIR BANNERS …

    http://undergroundcarpenter.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/mars-for-martians/

    AN INTERGALACTIC DISASTER!

  15. el gordo permalink
    August 12, 2012 10:40 am

    Good catch TB.

  16. August 12, 2012 11:43 am

    According to this Arizona Arse Clown,
    http://undergroundcarpenter.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/mars-for-martians/

    Studio-51, Nevada has spent 2.5 billion$ on the `curiosity`hover-craft.
    The largest amount spent on any single `prop` for a movie. With a budget of much more, even the B-grade actors that make up the cast will be on a great salary. I think we can assume the `special-effects` will be fantastic and, the movie “Mars-Landing“ could well be a block-buster.

    (Thanks for the lead, TB Queensland)

  17. August 12, 2012 1:09 pm

    WikiLeaks cables uncover NASA Studios-51 in bed with homophobes for `Mars-Landing`movie funding.
    Discovered, how the budget is made.

  18. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2012 1:54 pm

    (Thanks for the lead, TB Queensland)

    All in a reporter’s daily grind, 073 … but … I do prefer my payment upfront rather than an acknowledgement as an after thought … all you BlogMastas are the fkn same … WCP and Robber Baron wannabe’s at someone elses expence!

  19. August 12, 2012 2:54 pm

    According to QDE Theory (the theory of everything) I have proved beyond any slightest doubt that we human beings cannot pass our own orbital nature. Therefore what NASA is doing in the context of Moon and Mars LANDING MISSIONS cannot be accounted by any known theory of fundamental astrophysics.

  20. el gordo permalink
    August 12, 2012 3:31 pm

    Is nothing sacred, they are calling the next generation of rovers The Desert Rats.

    http://www.stratasys.com/Resources/Case-Studies/Aerospace-FDM-Technology-Case-S%C2%ADtudies/NASA.aspx

  21. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 12, 2012 3:49 pm

    I’m with the Doc on this point. QDE is correct Doc.

    It is impossible for humans to travel more than 1km above the earth’s surface. Air travel is a sham.

    It is also unnatural and contrary to God’s will.

  22. TB Queensland permalink
    August 12, 2012 4:07 pm

    It is also unnatural and contrary to God’s will.

    That’s silly, ToM! That’s something, James, would say … 🙄

  23. August 12, 2012 8:22 pm

    Are you suggesting James and Tom are wilful followers of the baby cheeses? .. Queen TB

  24. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 12, 2012 10:31 pm

    Mainly jarlsberg and brie. I’m not fond of eadam or camembert regardless of their age.

  25. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 12, 2012 10:31 pm

    edam

  26. Just Dee permalink
    August 13, 2012 3:17 am

    Let’s examine the common elements such as peoples clothing and equipment and compare it to the time. For example, there were no cargo shorts in 1969 that I know of being 18 years old at the time and some of that photo equipment seems up to date..??

  27. Just Dee permalink
    August 13, 2012 3:19 am

    oops, misread the title..my face is red.

  28. August 13, 2012 5:36 am

    ah! what a relief to find the blogs have returned to “normal”!

    and of course the landings are fake! how can anything take off from earth? Is it not flat?! You blasphemers!

    i’m off to observe the next revolution of the sun around the earth… good noight!

  29. William Sidmore permalink
    August 13, 2012 10:43 am

    Christian Orthodoxy dogma is an elaborate ruse among many Humans, organized faith based religions have programed naive people in the successful ploy of diversions for a myriad of agendas to fortify those in position of power. Biblical historical record has been drafted to include these agendas early on in Human history and has been successful to modern times. Open your mind and open your heart to Love, and with consistent progress, answers are forthcoming. Extraterrestrials and proof of existence only requires research from those interested in truly knowing. Do the research, go at it with an ‘open’ logic and a certain discipline and toss faith to the side and leave it. Be advised that when you do, what you think you know will fade to the background as mostly deceptions…especially, the perceptions of God, as we are ‘all’ aspects of the term of God…each of us..no distinctions…

  30. August 13, 2012 10:45 am

    😯

    They Live!

  31. August 13, 2012 10:49 am

    as we are ‘all’ aspects of the term of God…each of us..no distinctions…

    Even me??

  32. el gordo permalink
    August 13, 2012 10:55 am

    ‘Extraterrestrials and proof of existence only requires research…’ and a lot of faith.

    There is no proof.

  33. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 13, 2012 11:00 am

    Bernie makes a good point. I like people with a singular focus no matter how illogical.

  34. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 13, 2012 11:08 am

    Who’s Bernie?

    Imeant Bill.

  35. TB Queensland permalink
    August 13, 2012 11:55 am

    Extraterrestrials and proof of existence only requires research from those interested in truly knowing.

    You humans … :mrgreen:

  36. August 13, 2012 2:32 pm

    if i need any proof of extra terrestrials w(t)alking amongst us, i only have to visit this blog…..

    reb, many sheep of the big flock have strayed in with this post of yours… of course they are unable to see the 5 pound tongue within the cheek 🙂

  37. August 13, 2012 2:34 pm

    TB i picture you as the ET postman in MIB2….

  38. TB Queensland permalink
    August 13, 2012 2:42 pm

    Shhhhh … :mrgreen:

  39. MiniPiglo permalink
    August 13, 2012 4:15 pm

    No surprise that you’ve fallen for yet another media conspiracy!

  40. August 13, 2012 4:21 pm

    😯

  41. el gordo permalink
    August 13, 2012 4:52 pm

    Its sort of funny, TDT appears to be the only blog in the english speakin’ world talking about the hoax.

  42. el gordo permalink
    August 13, 2012 4:55 pm

    Except for the drivel coming out of godlike productions.

  43. August 13, 2012 5:01 pm

    “Its sort of funny, TDT appears to be the only blog in the english speakin’ world talking about the hoax.”

    The others have been “silenced”.

    We need to be vigilant. Right now I’m writing this from The Daily Trash secret lair. My whereabouts must remain a mystery, lest the authorities kidnap me too.

    For this reason I am prevented from revealing my location, but it’s somewhere near Broadmeadows.

  44. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 13, 2012 5:07 pm

    near Broadmeadows=the airport.

    You’re leaving!

  45. August 13, 2012 5:10 pm

    Ssssshhh! We’re just fuelling up the Daily Trash private jet….

  46. el gordo permalink
    August 13, 2012 5:24 pm

    🙂

  47. TB Queensland permalink
    August 13, 2012 6:24 pm

    Ssssshhh! Hey! That was my line, you just modified it!

    MiniPiglo sounds “cute” … 🙄 FMD!

  48. August 14, 2012 1:12 am

    Ssssshhh! We’re just fuelling up the Daily Trash private jet….

    well land it here in good ol’ india.. apparently 40% of us believe in aliens walking amongst us so you should feel right at home

  49. rocketman permalink
    August 14, 2012 5:40 am

    I knew the minute I saw them interview NASA members with earings on both ears, showing hippies with beards and mohawk fool on tv that this was a Hollywood all the way hoax.

  50. el gordo permalink
    August 14, 2012 7:33 am

    Lekhni whereabouts in India do you live?

    You don’t have to answer that question, its just that I’m seriously thinking of living in Sri Lanka for six months of the year to reduce my carbon footprint.

  51. deb permalink
    August 14, 2012 9:33 am

    I would think this is just for movies. I DO NOT believe the conspiracy you are trying to create here. find a job.

  52. August 14, 2012 9:46 am

    Hi Deb.

  53. joanne permalink
    August 14, 2012 10:14 am

    one thing i noticed was the cords on their headsets seem to be not connected as some walk great distances from their comps, you would think with NASA tecnology that they would be wireless.

  54. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2012 10:18 am

    … but, deb, all the evidence of conspiracy is on this thread! How could you not believe its a hoax?

    This NASA scam MUST be stopped … remember evil exists where good men people do nothing …

    And just because you don’t believe the truth about Mars, why should any of us get a job … I suppose you think everyone should have a job? Centrelink have been helping me and don’t seem to mind that I don’t have a job … I work around the home a bit, though …

  55. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2012 10:19 am

    This NASA scam MUST be stopped … remember evil exists where good men people do nothing …

    And just because you don’t believe the truth about Mars, why should any of us get a job … I suppose you think everyone should have a job? Centrelink have been helping me and don’t seem to mind that I don’t have a job … I work around the home a bit, though …

  56. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2012 10:22 am

    … you would think with NASA tecnology that they would be wireless.

    Exactly, joanne, well spotted … most us now use Bluetooth or Wi-Fi … why would NASA be using obsolete technology …

    … unless they are using old footage from the Moon landing hoax? There have been budget cuts lately?

  57. el gordo permalink
    August 14, 2012 10:23 am

    I like joanne’s lower case style…kitty will applaud her sentiments in this regard.

  58. August 14, 2012 10:25 am

    Hello….?

    Testing. Testing…..

    This is reb here posting from an undisclosed location off the coast of Costa Rica…

    Our benevolent benefactors have informed me that the authorities have already been in touch with our associated financial institutions that provide capital and funds for The Daily Trash.

    The authorities are trying to cut off our funding. This has only transpired in the last 48 hours.

    Why would they try to do that unless there is some truth in what we are saying?

    As I mentioned the other day, we are one of the few remaining news wire sources that are speaking out about THE TRUTH BEHIND THE MARS LANDING HOAX!

    The others have already been SILENCED!!

    Be vigiliant fellow truth seekers.

    The truth will prevail and the conspirators exposed!

  59. August 14, 2012 10:30 am

    “Exactly, joanne, well spotted … most us now use Bluetooth or Wi-Fi … why would NASA be using obsolete technology …”

    Exactly!

    And as “Reservoir Pup” points out, that’s clearly the actor Michael Madsen in the so-called “control room” footage that el gordo posted here.

    You can see him clearly at 30 seconds into the clip.

  60. August 14, 2012 10:36 am

    Hi Reb. Say Hi to Andrew Landeryou. He’s the fat cnt lying on the beach.

  61. August 14, 2012 10:42 am

    LOL!

  62. TB Queensland permalink
    August 14, 2012 11:08 am

    The Mothership rarely gets involved with Earthling doings … but this is becoming serious … I have just intercepted this message from Our Communications Orb … via organic transfer …

    calling, sreb, calling, sreb … most important … we wish to advise … stay away from Sweden at all costs … repeat stay away from Sweden … message ends :mrgreen:

  63. Matthew Durham permalink
    August 14, 2012 11:55 pm

    Wow you guys are a bunch of dumb asses. They are testing the machine and your dumb ass thinks it is a hoax, wow fucking idiots like this website

  64. August 15, 2012 12:10 am

    Caught another one.

    Ytawling for spacefreakz…the gift that keeps on giving. 😆

  65. August 15, 2012 12:10 am

    Trawling, even… (d’oh)

  66. August 15, 2012 12:20 am

    Thanks for your thoughts Matthew Durham, but why do todays so-called `curiosity`hover-craft photos of mars look so much like the american south-west landscape?

    No Studio-51, Nevada involved?

  67. Matthew Durham permalink
    August 15, 2012 12:33 am

    @730reportland, that it does. It also looks like some of the Australian outback, so I guess Australia is a hoax as well because it looks like the southwest America

  68. August 15, 2012 1:51 am

    This is reb here posting from an undisclosed location off the coast of Costa Rica…

    while you’re there, say hello to the dinosaurs for me….

    where in india

    am in ahmedabad, which is in the western part of india…

    not too sure re carbon footprint being smaller this end of the world though….

    today i was stuck for nearly 30 mins in a traffic jam going a distance which normally takes 10-15mins….

    any minimising done due to driving a scooter went up in idling smoke… literlally…

  69. el gordo permalink
    August 15, 2012 7:51 am

    ‘not too sure re carbon footprint ‘

    That’s ok, it was meant lightheartedly, my colleagues here are aware that I’m not concerned about the danger of CO2.

    I’ll google ahmedabad…..

  70. August 15, 2012 8:50 am

    “Wow you guys are a bunch of dumb asses. They are testing the machine and your dumb ass thinks it is a hoax”

    No Matthew. These photos were taken on August 2nd.

    According to NASA it suposedly took almost a year for the space probe to reach Mars ostensibly carrying the Mars rover.

    How could these photos have been taken if the rover was supposed to be on its way to Mars.

    Also why did NASA need to build at least two rovers?

    No good sir, it is your dumb ass that is simply choosing to believe the US government’s propoganda without question.

  71. August 15, 2012 9:39 am

    Hi Matthew.

  72. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2012 9:45 am

    No good sir, it is your dumb ass that is simply choosing to believe the US government’s propoganda without question.

    Well said, sir! These bloody American colonials think they own the fkn Universe!

  73. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2012 9:47 am

    These bloody American colonials think they own the fkn Universe!

    Would LIKE us to beleive … 😉

  74. August 15, 2012 10:52 am

    By coincidence, I happened to be ‘wandering’ Death Valley and environs the other day (well, Google’s Street View), and Mars sure looks alot like Nevada Highway 267, between Scotty’s Castle and U.S. Hwy. 95. To compare for yourself, copy and paste the following link from Street View into your search engine:

    http://goo.gl/maps/TJgO6

    Then, pull up a NASA photo of Mars taken by the rover Curiousity two days ago:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57490403-1/why-the-mars-rover-has-a-measly-2mp-camera/

    Once in Street View, zoom in on those mountains in the distance. Compare with NASA’s photo. Spooky, isn’t it?

    (conspiracy theories, anyone?)

  75. August 15, 2012 10:55 am

    David makes a lot of sense.

  76. el gordo permalink
    August 15, 2012 11:30 am

    Yep…I think rebs got a scoop.

  77. August 15, 2012 11:40 am

    Matthew Durham has a theory I definitely support. Some decades ago, there were 5 Australian Qantas Pilots who claimed Australia was just part of Studio-51 in Nevada. They of course were mocked and ridiculed. The Qantas Pilots stole an aircraft and escaped. The escape didn`t last long as they were shot down by the usa military only a few minutes into the escape. May of the local people heard the aircraft engines, the military firing weapons, the explosion, and the crash. The usa military swooped in and removed all traces of the shot down Australians and their plane at the crash site. The “official“ story is it was just a weather balloon that crashed outside of Roswell.

  78. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 15, 2012 11:58 am

    This is an amazing breakthrough!!

    I’ve just looked at David’s link, it’sconvinced me. It also appears that Mars and Nevada are part of “Greater Crapperville”!!

    Both look ideal for “a transport hub, an inland city, a thriving centre of technology…”

    Scaper’s plan is clearly to become the Mayor of Mars.

  79. David M. Carswell permalink
    August 15, 2012 12:18 pm

    What a crock of…. BS. I am an astrophysicist. The Van Allen Radiation belt is not dangerous enough to be impassable with modern technology and is would not deliver deadly rads though one would be exposed and astronaughts that went to the moon have battled and died from cancers. Though their lives were not shortened by much. The first landing might (and I say this due to politics of the space race to beat the soviets) have been staged for we could barely get a rocket into space. However I am very sure the later landings were not after the rocket technology got ironed out.

    Yes there is a political and financial mess as the US is falling into a police state run by corporations and fraudulent banksters whilst the people drown in their own terptitude by sleeping through the takeover as they are too distracted by Madonna’s left foot. Blind to the warmongering government that wages a fake war on terror as they terrorize the world for control and oil.

    The photos you claim to be directors and producers are the engineers and scientists doing required extensive testing in the desert. You don’t spend that kind of money and not brutally test it in the field. Since we can’t get to Mars to test it we need the closest thing to it. A desert with similar terrains that vary and closely match the terrains of Mars. That is what is going on in your pictures.

    Lastly I myself use Autodesk Maya and Pixar’s Renderman for space scenes. Your two pictures purported to be the befor and after are not the same at all. Secondly an animator would never use a real photograph and doctor it as you state. You would create it entirely in 3d by modeling it and rendering. The backdrop shown is the same as tons of large backdrops used for field work and probably has portopotty’s behind it or a shady area to escape the heat while in the field.

    I could go on but like I said this is a crock and debunked.

    PS as for religion – whatever gets your rocks off. Every religion claims they are the real deal when all they do is dehumanize the nonbeliever. Society will not survive should religion continue genocide, hatred, and perpetuate the evils that the very God they worship the betray with their actions. Love your God but do it without expectation to endoctrinate them. You do your very religion a disservice. And become nothing but a hipocrite.

    End rant.

  80. JAWS permalink
    August 15, 2012 12:22 pm

    “What a crock of…. BS. I am an astrophysicist……………astronaughts”

    Have you ever done Marshall Arts ?

  81. Ken G permalink
    August 15, 2012 12:36 pm

    What a bunch of crap.

  82. Ken G permalink
    August 15, 2012 12:45 pm

    TB – What engineering project do you know of, on this scale, that wouldn’t have prototypes for tests? They have a complete identical one back on Earth to compare with the device up there, to work out problems. Its called “science.” You embarrass yourself. Two years, if not more from now, Pixar is still going to be fabricating a lie just because they can? And just because “you” say so? HA HA HA! Time will tell, and this “mess” will be your legacy. “Onward Christian Soldiers!” I guess. HA HA HA!

  83. el gordo permalink
    August 15, 2012 12:51 pm

    ‘I am an astrophysicist.’

    Is it true that the discovery of wifi came from dark matter and the internet derived from black holes?

  84. David M. Carswell permalink
    August 15, 2012 12:52 pm

    I meant 3rd year student. Spelling is not my major – anyhow I’m on a train home and very tired right now. So piss off.

  85. JAWS permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:05 pm

    Wow……………………..they are all out on day release today

    LOL

  86. David M. Carswell permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:08 pm

    El Gordo if this article is true then yes. Anyone who believes this article lacks critical thinking and is not capable of simple research. I know two people who work at Pixar. Just got a confirmation – no secret room in the bowels of Pixar. Go ahead though believe what ya want but for your own sake fight real enemies and get the PTB tried for the crimes they perpetuate against all of us. That is a much more noble cause than bickering with me. Even if ya don’t believe me i have provided well enough information for you to research and find out for yourselves the truth. Don’t be naive.

  87. David M. Carswell permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:10 pm

    Yeah and they wrote and believe the article!

  88. August 15, 2012 1:13 pm

    Hi David. Hi Ken. How about a song, Ken?

  89. JAWS permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:15 pm

    “Is it true that the discovery of wifi came from dark matter and the internet derived from black holes?”

    Eg

    Have you heard of the oldtime Hollywood Actress Hedy Lamarr ? Then this might interest you

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr#Frequency-hopping_spread-spectrum_invention

  90. David M. Carswell permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:17 pm

    Belief in this hoax=thalidomide

  91. David M. Carswell permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:22 pm

    Jaws-fascinating link. Your right! Very interesting. Thanks for the link. I’m off to bed. Long day. Not gonna spend my night arguing and name calling. Sorry if anyone was offended. But truly this article just really smells and look how mean people can get. Sorry if my tangent went too far.

  92. August 15, 2012 1:27 pm

    Carswell and Ken-G over-look the fact the USSR never developed their own version of Pixar because they knew the Yanks were only creating movies about Mars and the Moon at Studio-51, even some Soviet-spies worked at the Nevada sites during the cold-war.

  93. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:37 pm

    David might have a point, but those photos look real to me, and I don’t think they were taken on Mars.

  94. Ken G permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:43 pm

    73oreportland – HAHAHA! Boy, its deep in here.

  95. August 15, 2012 1:55 pm

    “I know two people who work at Pixar. Just got a confirmation – no secret room in the bowels of Pixar. ”

    An astrophysicist’s (or 3rd year student’s) mates…?

    Whar part of this report don’t you understand? It’s a “secret basement” at Pixar.

    If everyone at Pixar knew about it, it wouldn’t be a fkn secret..!

    Honestly…. 🙄

  96. el gordo permalink
    August 15, 2012 1:57 pm

    Lamarr… ‘could better help the war effort by using her celebrity status to sell War Bonds.’

    Opportunity lost.

  97. el gordo permalink
    August 15, 2012 2:02 pm

    David Carswell is no astrophysicist.

  98. August 15, 2012 2:17 pm

    The Pixar “..secret.basement..“ is old news, but I really doubt those at Pixar are going to let some `intern` Carwell knows in on it anyway Reb.

  99. el gordo permalink
    August 15, 2012 2:35 pm

    ‘El Gordo if this article is true then yes. Anyone who believes this article lacks critical thinking…’

    Anyway, to answer my own question:

    Physicist Ray Volkas ‘said the Internet was born at CERN as a solution to high-volume data-sharing and other major spin-offs were likely to follow as physicists continued to “push the boundaries of pure science”.

  100. August 15, 2012 2:45 pm

    What utter crap, Gordo. The Internet was invented by Al Gore just before he saved the world from global warming!!

  101. August 15, 2012 2:50 pm

    Rubbish! The internets were invented by the US military in the 1960s in order to propogate the world with the so called world wide web in yet another filthy scheming contemporary judeo attempt to bring down christianity, destroy our way of life and turn everyone into porn-downloading, brain-dead crack heads.

  102. el gordo permalink
    August 15, 2012 3:05 pm

    These men in white coats also say the Higgs Boson may allow us to travel at the speed of light.

  103. TB Queensland permalink
    August 15, 2012 5:00 pm

    TB – What engineering project do you know of, on this scale, that wouldn’t have prototypes for tests?

    What did I fkn do?

  104. JAWS permalink
    August 15, 2012 5:05 pm

    LOL

    Ah…TB……..that’s the beauty of this Blog .

    Even …………”the innocent must die”………….!

  105. JAWS permalink
    August 15, 2012 5:09 pm

    And if you don’t like it ……………well you can jump in ya Tardis and piss off

    LOL

  106. public toilet permalink
    August 15, 2012 8:29 pm

    Bwahahahaha…

  107. August 16, 2012 3:11 am

    This is the biggest load of rampant illogical nonsense I have ever read. The last desperate cries of the Christian propaganda machine on the way down.

    We’ve all grown up you see. We’ve opened our eyes.

  108. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 6:53 am

    ‘This is the biggest load of rampant illogical nonsense I have ever read.’

    Thanx, we do our best.

    Michael is an astrophysicist or wants to be one, so he’ll need to be handled gingerly.

  109. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 7:59 am

    ‘The Curiosity mars rover could be the next target for the Anonymous group of hackers, it has been claimed.

    ‘The group shot to fame when it brought down numerous websites including Visa and several US Government sites as a protest against Wikileaks founder Julian Assange’s arrest.

    ‘Now it appears they may have set their sights even higher.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2188586/Is-Anonymous-planning-hijack-Curiosity-rover.html#ixzz23ee8CRhh

  110. August 16, 2012 7:59 am

    ‘This is the biggest load of rampant illogical nonsense I have ever read.’

    Blasphemer!!

  111. TB Queensland permalink
    August 16, 2012 9:15 am

    Fuckwit™!!

  112. August 16, 2012 9:48 am

    THE RECENT MARS LANDING IS A HOAX
    Wednesday, 15th August, 2012

    There is undeniable evidence that the latest MSL Curiosity Rover landing on Mars is an elaborate hoax by NASA.

    This is the considered opinion of the same old ignorant, naive, religious, bigotted sheeple, who actually believe that the World is flat.

    To compensate for their naive and bleak existance, they have now found something new to bleat about…

    A number of these Judeo and Xtian fundamentalist, bigotted sheeple claim that the recent Mars MSL and the Curiousity Rover landing on Mars is just an elaborate hoax.

    Their evidence concerns various pictures of the Mars Curiosity Rover taken during its development testing in the Nevada desert.

    Now, where should the NASA scientists have tested their Curiosity Rover? In their bedrooms? In the streets of New York? In the Vatican? In the carpark of the Shul? On Mars?

    Scientists are known to be a lot more intelligent than these religious sheeple, who sadly base their ignorant, and twisted beliefs on badly written texts, created by inspired (drug-addicted?) mankind thousands of years ago and riddled with numerous errors, hate speech, racism and evil deeds.

    The reason why the NASA scientists tested their Curiosity Rover in the desert is because, the Planet Mars of today is in fact a desert, which experiences extreme ranges in temperature, has large sand dunes, the largest known volcano in our Solar System, craters, old dry river beds, dust storms, rocks and mountains.

    Many motor car manufacturers test their new models in extreme conditions in the deserts and the arctic regions on Planet Earth. Does this mean that the motor car is an elaborate hoax too?!

    These same dumber than dumb sheeple also, believe that Man never-ever landed on the Moon. In fact, 18 men travelled to the Moon and 12 walked, and even drove, upon its surface. Their footprints, tracks and hardware that was left behind are still very much in evidence today, and have been photographed in much detail by the Lunar Orbiter.

    Ho-hum, these are the same ignorant fundamentalist religious bigots, who believe that the World is going to end on the 21st December, 2012.

    Dream on you ignorant sheeple because, like the Second-Coming, and the Rapture, it ain’t gonna happen; not now, nor billions of years in the future.

    Click on the hyperlink below…
    https://thedailytrash.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/explosive-new-photos-prove-mars-landing-hoax-is-real

    “SCIENTIA REGINA” – SCIENCE RULES.

  113. August 16, 2012 10:14 am

    I really do think it’s time for that Daily Trash celebratory drink.

    We have surely arrived!!

  114. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 10:23 am

    ‘We have surely arrived!!’

    Yep…the troof is out there.

  115. captainfreedomofamerica permalink
    August 16, 2012 10:34 am

    to say the mars buggy didnt land on the moon can only be spoken by a traitor. if u dont believe in the usa then get the hell out !!!!!!

  116. August 16, 2012 10:34 am

    Madzogdog, I’ve been trying to find an old friend of mine, Marcel Kincaid. You may know him.

  117. captain freedom of america permalink
    August 16, 2012 10:36 am

    Anyone who says this is a hoax is a traitor or just a jealous foreigner. usa is great fool weather u live here or not.

  118. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    August 16, 2012 10:39 am

    I don’t wish to be provocative, but I’ve travelled to the US quite a few times. Generally I’ve found the people there to be amiable and fat.

  119. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    August 16, 2012 11:13 am

    “Generally I’ve found the people there to be amiable and fat.”

    Sadly, I cannot disagree with that…

  120. August 16, 2012 11:34 am

    These troofer threads are a trawling goldmine!

  121. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 11:58 am

    ‘…a trawling goldmine!’

    I think the editor has finally found the right demographic…

  122. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 12:00 pm

    And if reb can turn that into ‘rivers of gold’ we’ll all be rich.

  123. August 16, 2012 12:02 pm

    Gordo, Reb’s a WCP! We’ll be lucky if he tosses us a bone….

  124. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 12:46 pm

    WCP?

  125. August 16, 2012 12:51 pm

    Wealth Crazed Prick.

  126. August 16, 2012 1:52 pm

    “Anyone who says this is a hoax is a traitor or just a jealous foreigner. usa is great fool weather u live here or not.”

    So true. Probably “jealous foreigner.”

    Especially of your education system.

  127. August 16, 2012 2:03 pm

    “Anyone who says this is a hoax is a traitor or just a jealous foreigner. usa is great fool weather u live here or not.”

    weather? WEATHER?? REALLY??!!

    the only truism i see in the above is – usa is great fool (period)

  128. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 2:19 pm

    Wealth Crazed Prick

    guffaw …

    Spread teh wealth comrade reb.

  129. TB Queensland permalink
    August 16, 2012 2:52 pm

    These NASA zealots who believe the propaganda about landing on the moon — filmed in a studio weeks before it was shown on “live” TV will also insist that … believe the Mars crap too! Curiousity my bum! Clevergraphics more like!

    12/12/2012 @ 12:12:12 pm will well and truly tell the truth of the matter … you watch!

  130. August 16, 2012 3:03 pm

    Oh shit, TB, I forgot about that!! I’ve just ordered and paid for Dad’s Christmas present.

  131. TB Queensland permalink
    August 16, 2012 3:24 pm

    Is it before or after, James? If it’s before you can get a refund, if its after WGAF!

  132. public toilet permalink
    August 16, 2012 4:33 pm

    The Ancient Mayans, lead ably by the remarkably supple cadaver of Nostradamus, will return to sacrifice humanity’s remnants on 12/12/12. They have been awaiting the moment, in patient torpor beneath their volcanoes, hanging upside down like bats.

    None shall be spared! It has been written.

  133. JAWS permalink
    August 16, 2012 4:43 pm

    “The Ancient Mayans, lead ably by the remarkably supple cadaver of Nostradamus, will return to sacrifice humanity’s remnants on 12/12/12.”

    Bugger that…..!

    I’ll be the first in line to tell him to f**k right off outa here !

    I’ve got a major project finishing on the 13th and I wanna get damn well paid for it

  134. TB Queensland permalink
    August 16, 2012 4:47 pm

    I’ve got a major project finishing on the 13th and I wanna get damn well paid for it

    Those who worship $$$$$ wil be the first on the altar … and if you don’t believe, IT WILL BE FILMED FOR ALL TO SEE!

  135. August 16, 2012 6:55 pm

    “These NASA zealots who believe the propaganda“ @Queen-TB

    Absolutely correct TB. Reb`s posted this photo

    which clearly shows a weather balloon in the distance,
    it is smack bang in the center on the photo. (half-inch above horizon)

  136. el gordo permalink
    August 16, 2012 6:58 pm

    Of course they will tell us it was just a speck of Mars dirt on the lens…that’s how clever they are.

  137. rocker bogie permalink
    August 17, 2012 1:53 am

  138. reb of Melbourne airport permalink
    August 17, 2012 8:51 am

    That’s a funny video clip!

    Btw, here I am, broadcasting live from Melbourne airport thanks to the marvels of modern technology and science. Yes! Science!

    On my way to the exotic locale of Penang, so I’ll be off the airwaves for the next 8 hours or so….

  139. TB Queensland permalink
    August 17, 2012 10:10 am

    … so I’ll be off the airwaves for the next 8 hours or so….

    PLAYTIME GANG! Who shall we ban … I vote, Wally! 😆

  140. August 18, 2012 3:36 am

    Thank you, William. The only voice of truth here. :))

  141. rrr... permalink
    August 18, 2012 6:58 am

    That explains why there were no little blue men!

  142. TB Queensland permalink
    August 18, 2012 12:11 pm

    WTF is William? What did William say? 😯

  143. Ken G permalink
    August 19, 2012 6:09 am

    TB – How do you live with yourself? Why the sputtering when William speaks the truth?

  144. TB Queensland permalink
    August 19, 2012 9:52 am

    TB – How do you live with yourself?

    How do you know I live with myself?

    I just asked a question!

  145. Storm Saxon's Gall Bladder permalink
    August 21, 2012 11:13 pm

    I looked but the “explosive pictures” didin’t explode. There was supposed to be an earth-shattering Ka-Boom!

  146. James of North Melbourne permalink
    August 21, 2012 11:19 pm

    I AGREE!!! Reb is a fraud!

  147. mohamed permalink
    August 22, 2012 12:19 am

    I am a Muslim and i totally support this article.

  148. August 22, 2012 8:48 am

    Mohamed makes a lot of sense.

  149. August 22, 2012 8:50 am

    Mars is an integral part of the Galactic Caliphate.

  150. August 23, 2012 12:35 pm

    Good Patriotic americans like Madzogdog, David-Carswell and Michael-Roberts have the correct theaten levels and will always choose to believe the hoax created by their own government. The mars-Landing hoax will be believed by them, just as the moon-Landing hoax was swallowed, hook, line and sinker by the american public. We may recall other times when the american public were also fully punked, invading Iraq, Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan. Only the american public follows its governments wishes like unquestioning sheep, which is what truly sets them apart from the rest of the international public.

  151. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2012 3:07 pm

    … invading Iraq, Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan. Only the american public follows its governments wishes like unquestioning sheep

    Over the years Australian governments (all LibNats) have followed the USA like fkn sheep … particularly in the wars mentioned above … (and then left an ALP government to sort out the $#!t left behind …)

    We have short memories too Menzies alone should NEVER have had the power of PM after his shoddy performance during WWII … weak as water … the irony of John Howard’s Peace Medal from George Wya … was that it was issued for his commitment to war in Iraq and Afghanistan!

    Don’t get me started on VN!

  152. el gordo permalink
    August 23, 2012 4:07 pm

    The whole moon landing thing is obviously a hoax, here are some pics that fell off the back of a truck….fake written all over them.

    – THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE, SOMEWHERE? 35 NASA secret photos from the Moon (IN MEMORIAM OF RAY BRADBURY)

  153. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2012 4:25 pm

    Over the years Australian governments (all LibNats) have followed the USA like fkn sheep

    It was Bob Hawke’s ALP govt that took us into the first Gulf War and we have been there ever since.

  154. Ol' Sancty permalink
    August 23, 2012 5:12 pm

    Oh that one was ok, Neil, because that was good old Bob and Paul (oh how I miss Paul and his wit).

  155. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2012 6:00 pm

    It was Bob Hawke’s ALP govt that took us into the first Gulf War and we have been there ever since.

    Stop being an ignorant little snot and people might listen to your bleatings, Noddy …

    … do some fkn research before you start making untrue comments … or should I call you a LIAR – I’m still waiting for my apology BTW!

    The Gulf War was over in months … and based on obvious evidence of invasion by Iraq on Kuwait … (it began in late 1990 and ended in early 1991)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_contribution_to_the_1991_Gulf_War

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Gulf_War

    The Iraq War (sometimes mistakenly referred to as Gulf War II) … 2003 to 2009 – despite George Wya’s claim it was over in 2003 … was an invasion based upon deliberately concocted military intelligence by the Bush administration …

    … and supported by the Howard government – even though it was advised by members of ASIO and Military Intelligence that it was flawed (ask Andrew Wilkie what he thought!) …

    United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan said in an interview with the BBC in September 2004, “From our point of view and from the Charter point of view the war was illegal.”

  156. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2012 6:01 pm

    (oh how I miss Paul and his wit).

    … and your’s is 50% of his … 😉

  157. August 23, 2012 7:16 pm

    Haha, the claws are out!

    Neil & snacty can’t see the difference between the Invasion of Kuwait by Saddam & the Invasion of Iraq, after years of punitive sanctions, by the US & its lickspittles! 😯

    Go figure. 🙄

  158. Neil of Sydney permalink
    August 23, 2012 8:26 pm

    “Neil & snacty can’t see the difference between the Invasion of Kuwait by Saddam & the Invasion of Iraq”

    I can tell the difference. However I was responding to the comment that it is always the Coalition that gets us into wars. Vietnam and Korea were also mentioned.

    It was the ALP that took us to the Middle East. We have been there since the first Gulf War.

  159. TB Queensland permalink
    August 23, 2012 8:51 pm

    It was the ALP that took us to the Middle East. We have been there since the first Gulf War.

    CONGRATULATIONS! Noddy …

    You have just qualified for the Fuckwits Club™ … continue enjoy posting your BS!

  160. August 23, 2012 9:21 pm

    “`Over the years Australian governments (all LibNats) have followed the USA like fkn sheep … particularly in the wars mentioned above“` @Queen-TB .. absolutely correct TB, but the KEYword was PUBLIC, of course our Lame-Arse fools follow the yanks without question. They are all sheets of paper to be crapped on, in the bottom of the yank canary cage.

  161. Sparta of Phoenix, AZ USA permalink
    August 24, 2012 12:30 am

    I see the usual enlightened “Aussies”, paradigms of intelligence are here in force (SAT score 730 and Tuberculosis, got love em)..LMAO; and you guys call Americans “dumb”….to rich…Tell us what you really think?

  162. avery permalink
    August 24, 2012 2:51 am

    I will not let them usurp my God.

  163. public toilet permalink
    August 24, 2012 4:11 am

    The foul smell of humans has usurped itself.

  164. August 24, 2012 4:53 am

    don`t worry Arizona, as long as Australia has a government of any flavor, there will always be something dumber than the yank public.

  165. August 26, 2012 8:29 am

    DEATH IN NEVADA OVER-NIGHT !

    An industrial accident on the `Mars-Landing` movie location, Studio-51, has killed at least one B-grade actor. No photo available at moment. The confirmed identity of the dead actor is Neil Armstrong, who was starring in the movie as the commander of the rocket that takes the first people to Mars. During a scene in which Armstrong exited the rocket to become the first man to walk on Mars, there was a malfunction in the `Curiosity`hover-craft prop which caused it to be out of control. The un-controlled `Curiosity`prop then collided with rigging which collapsed, crushing the poor actor, Armstrong to death and injuring other film-crew. The Studio-51 Mars-Landing set has been shut down until investigations by the authorities have been conducted. Un-confirmed rumors of a weather balloon being the cause of the accident have been reported. Our condolences go out to the family and friends of Neil Armstrong in these very sad times.

  166. TB Queensland permalink
    August 26, 2012 8:53 am

    I always liked Neil Armstrong … he played a wonderful part in, The Blob …

    … SoP, was in the movies ya know … he was in, The 301 Spartans … fortunately unfortunately he fell on his spear, so they had to change the title to, The 300 Spartans …

    … he had actually taken off his sundial for the shoot, too! Now that’s professionalism … (just a bit of movie trivia) 🙂

  167. el gordo permalink
    August 26, 2012 9:26 am

    ‘Tell us what you really think?’

    In the US the top 400 households have more money than the bottom 60 per cent combined.

    Its an obscenity.

  168. TB Queensland permalink
    August 26, 2012 11:13 am

    Its an obscenity.

    Kapitalism at work, egg!

    At least 400 households think so anyway (not sure about the other 200 MILLION!

    Nothing changes … as I keep sayin’, the french had the right idea in the 1700’s …

  169. el gordo permalink
    August 26, 2012 1:48 pm

    ‘Kapitalism at work, egg!’

    Capitalism still offers the best chance of uplifting the mass, with a modified version coming from the communist Chinese.

    Watch what they do in Africa and elsewhere, I reckon it will be a revolution in free market economics.

  170. TB Queensland permalink
    August 26, 2012 3:14 pm

    Watch what they do in Africa and elsewhere, I reckon it will be a revolution in free market economics.

    In yer dreams … the Africa is wracked with civil wars, dictatorships (some camouflaged as “kingdoms”, tribal ethnic cleansing, war lord conflicts, religious wars particularly moslem against most other religions, draughts, floods, pirates, exploitation by China, Russia, USA, France … and few others …

    If it ever becomes a “revolution in free market economics” you and I’ll be mo’ldrin’ in our graves …

    Don’t know much about “elsewhere” …

  171. el gordo permalink
    August 26, 2012 5:26 pm

    ‘Don’t know much about “elsewhere” …’

    Barry O’Farrell was over in Beijing recently seeking a $49 billion loan.

  172. Small steps permalink
    August 26, 2012 6:46 pm

    “Custom dictates that a commencement speaker give a word of advice to the new graduates. And I feel a sense of discomfort in that responsibility as it requires more confidence than I possess to assume that my personal convictions merit your attention. The single observation I would offer for your consideration is that some things are beyond your control. You can lose your health to illness or accident. You can lose your wealth to all manner of unpredictable sources. What are not easily stolen from you without your cooperation are your principles and your values. They are your most important possessions and, if carefully selected and nurtured, will well serve you and your fellow man. Society’s future will depend on a continuous improvement program for the human character. And what will that future bring? I do not know, but it will be exciting.” ~ Neil Armstrong

  173. August 27, 2012 6:54 pm

    Yes! We all knew about the radiation that surrounds Earth! This belt protects us from being burnt up from our sun! Many Years ago when Russia put up the 1st satalite(spundnic!) Nixon was the presedent then!! My dad told me,”son they will never get very far away from the Earth!” I ask why? he said there is a radiation belt that protects us from the rays from the sun. I believed it then and believe it now! In 1969 we were suppose to land on the moon. Well I did not believe it then and do not believe it now. “God has His plans and the Bible tells us so!” “He will come again to judge the living and the dead!” No? So much facking and minipulation by the leaders of His Earth!

  174. August 27, 2012 6:56 pm

    Going up away from the Earth and going through the solor belt is like putting one’s hand in a micro wave! No?

  175. August 27, 2012 7:00 pm

    Alian life does exist,it is Satan and his followers coming soon! When all is one,He will come upon a piller of fire and brimstone! “Watch out mankind of what you do to control His creations!”

  176. August 27, 2012 7:03 pm

    Jerry makes a lot of sense.

    Lok what happened to Neil Armstrong. He was about to spill the beans on the whole moon landing FRAUD and so NASA had him taken out.

    These people are ruthless.

  177. August 27, 2012 7:03 pm

    A missing link,”Put Jesus Christ first and remember,follow the 10 commandments! How many have you not followed?

  178. August 27, 2012 7:04 pm

    Onya, jerry.

    Don’t ever let ’em tell ya different! 😯

    Jesus will remember those who doubted His Truth, in time. He’ll remember them good, with his flaming jesus-sword. Then they’ll pay. Soon. December 2012 to be precise. The ancient mayans were ruled by jesus too, they were his subcontinental proxies. He didn’t give them the gift of His Word The Bible becuase, being off-white, they weren’t worthy.

    The Lord be with you…& also with me.

  179. TB Queensland permalink
    August 27, 2012 7:06 pm

    Barry O’Farrell was over in Beijing recently seeking a $49 billion loan.

    egg, you are now starting to sound like, Noddy, your yolk and white are becomeing scrambled …

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++

    The Profit Jerry … has mennie gud things to sa … I forgive you, sreb, for thee knew what thee were about … praise to thee and the Lard !

  180. August 27, 2012 7:08 pm

    “How many have you not followed?”

    I haven’t shagged the neighbour’s wife, if that counts….?

  181. TB Queensland permalink
    August 27, 2012 7:11 pm

    I haven’t shagged the neighbour’s wife, if that counts….?

    Husband?

  182. TB Queensland permalink
    August 27, 2012 7:14 pm

    He didn’t give them the gift of His Word The Bible becuase, being off-white, they weren’t worthy.

    Praise to The Truth … brother, Human Dividend … thee can hold theyself high with the truth of the Lord!

  183. August 27, 2012 7:15 pm

    “I haven’t shagged the neighbour’s wife, if that counts….?”

    hehe, might be a bit subtle, reb. 😉

    This thread is a great case study! It will keep reeling em in for as long as the internet functions.

  184. August 27, 2012 7:16 pm

    El shadai, TB, el shadai.

    Age to age you’re still the same, by the power of thy fables.

  185. james fulghum permalink
    August 27, 2012 10:05 pm

    Never trust the government.

  186. el gordo permalink
    August 27, 2012 10:23 pm

    james fulghum has the correct sentiments…welcome.

  187. August 28, 2012 1:56 am

    How do you spell lunatic? or would that be marsatic?

  188. el gordo permalink
    August 28, 2012 7:04 am

    ‘This thread is a great case study! It will keep reeling em in for as long as the internet functions.’

    They come in at night and don’t say much…must be Amerikins.

  189. August 28, 2012 7:19 am

    I`m worried about Tony Hopper`s theaten levels, he clearly hasn`t looked at the Studio-51 evidence. Weather balloon clearly shown in photo.

  190. August 28, 2012 7:39 am

    Mars??? Who cares. I’m studying the pics of Lochie, Big Foot, and Elvis pump’n gas.
    Mars hoax? Come on, goes without saying.

  191. Kneel permalink
    August 30, 2012 10:59 pm

    ‘One of my many favorite Armstrong memories from Apollo relates to a spur of the moment decision he made late in his walk on the Moon. We all trained to focus on collecting the greatest variety of Moon rocks possible in the time available. But, having already quickly collected one of the finest sets of lunar samples, Neil thought the partially filled rock box needed something more. He rapidly filled the box with a large amount of the Moon’s soil. This soil became one of the most important samples ever returned from the Moon. Neil’s 30 minutes of sampling decisions at Tranquillity Base remain the most productive half hour in lunar exploration.’

    http://americasuncommonsense.com/blog/postscripts/#Aug28

  192. Ol' Sancty permalink
    October 4, 2012 3:28 pm

    Hi technobritish12, and welcome.

  193. October 4, 2012 3:37 pm

    I think “technobritish12” may have slipped through the spam filter sancty…

  194. Ol' Sancty permalink
    October 4, 2012 3:53 pm

    I did wonder how you managed to attract such a polite and well articulated point of view.

    Whatever happened to that LOL bloke?

  195. October 4, 2012 4:09 pm

    LOL bloke?

  196. Ol' Sancty permalink
    October 4, 2012 4:28 pm

    There was some chap who dropped in once who called himself LOL or LOLZ or something telling us to stop picking on Kevin Rudd.

  197. October 4, 2012 4:31 pm

    Oh, I see. I can’t recall…..

  198. October 4, 2012 4:33 pm

    It wasn’t Shayne Chester was it….?

  199. Ol' Sancty permalink
    October 4, 2012 4:43 pm

    No I think he wrote his own material.

  200. October 4, 2012 4:47 pm

    LOL!!

  201. el gordo permalink
    October 4, 2012 5:49 pm

    I still miss Shayne, such a lively wit.

  202. October 4, 2012 5:53 pm

    He’s still active on the interwebs egg…

  203. el gordo permalink
    October 4, 2012 6:25 pm

    Thanx reb.

  204. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2012 6:48 pm

    Breaking NEWZ!

    Egg Found On Mars!

  205. el gordo permalink
    October 4, 2012 6:57 pm

    ‘Egg Found On Mars!’

    To be honest, I’ve never had the opportunity to visit. They claim the Rover has found an old river stream…the pic looked real, like sumthin’ you might see on earth. Who are they kidding?

  206. TB Queensland permalink
    October 4, 2012 8:09 pm

    To be honest, I’ve never had the opportunity to visit.

    🙄 It’s a fkn hoax, egg … 🙄

  207. el gordo permalink
    October 4, 2012 8:14 pm

    ‘It’s a fkn hoax, egg … ‘

    You’re probably right, it sure feels like a hoax.

  208. October 5, 2012 1:23 am

    LOL Snacty, .. `technobritish12` looks like a sales-spam troll with meaningless/generic comment, but reb`s got hover-cards turned off destroying its advert.

  209. wowyoureligiousretardsareignorant permalink
    October 13, 2012 7:54 am

    you sir, are retarded

  210. el gordo permalink
    October 13, 2012 8:48 am

    Lolly paper found on Mars by Curiosity.

  211. October 13, 2012 9:23 am

    That candy-wrapper was dropped by some arse-hole like Carswell. Probably an extra with no idea on how important it is to keep Studio-sets clean.

  212. October 13, 2012 9:34 am

    Maybe it was a “Mars Bar?” 🙂

    I just kill me.

  213. el gordo permalink
    October 13, 2012 10:38 am

    That’s funny reb.

    Reading the whole thread again had me laughing, some good lines.

  214. Tom R permalink
    October 13, 2012 10:41 am

    Lolly paper found on Mars

    Further proof that Carbon Dioxide is a harmless trace gas, not a pollutant

  215. el gordo permalink
    October 13, 2012 11:11 am

    Classic Tom…but wait there is more.

    http://www.webpronews.com/mars-rover-curiosity-finds-surprises-on-mars-2012-10

  216. October 16, 2012 8:54 am

    This rover prop is pretty good at finding Lolly Wrappers, they better keep it after the movie is made. It is quite a good mobile trash can and will keep Studio-51 nice and clean. I am also very relieved that Nevada volcanic rocks are the same as volcanic rocks in other parts of the world.

  217. Sherb permalink
    November 6, 2012 7:25 am

    oh, please – “designed to re-elect Obama”? Most people don’t care about the Mars landings, they care about the things you mentioned: US economy, rampant unemployment and civil unrest.

  218. November 8, 2012 3:12 am

    This is just bullshit. Most of these pictures are from 2010 where NASA engineers were testing the rover. NASA has examined hundreds of rocks with its various rovers. What do you think? They’d send it without testing on some rock landscape? Use Google, these pictures are published before the Mars landing.

  219. TB Queensland permalink
    November 8, 2012 11:51 am

    And still they come … !!!!

  220. AWAKE_ONE permalink
    December 5, 2012 5:47 am

    Old photos of testing the rover. Cmon man…..the theory seems right…but cmon man….better evidence is needed…not pics from a few years ago.

  221. el gordo permalink
    December 5, 2012 6:38 am

    There have been rumours spreading for a week that the rover has discovered something extraordinary which will rewrite the history books.

    Organic compounds?

    Talk about a beat-up.

  222. Tom R permalink
    December 5, 2012 7:24 am

    Organic compounds?

    Maybe a pollutant?

    What is a main component of Mars atmosphere again? 😯

  223. Ali permalink
    December 20, 2012 9:32 am

    This is the biggest rubbish I have ever read & the pictures you have are test sites closely matched to Mars. You talk about God as if he is some supreme being that created all!! When are people like you & your readers going to wake up? Our planet;-Earth-mother earth is a living breathing life form & we are the scabies that eat away at her.. Also if we don’t start to listen to our past profits,like Jesus which clearly had the message that we are all connected as one, all living life. Be it life on earth,the Sun,Moon,etc,ect. What ever man touches we destroy.. Ali from England..

  224. December 20, 2012 9:39 am

    Ali will burn in Hell’s fires for refusing to recognise this ungodly hoax!

  225. TB Queensland permalink
    December 20, 2012 10:26 am

    I think we captured a Pom!

    … damn the Seven Gods … … the kraken and the dragons shall whither and the red god die … the old gods of wierwoods shall fill the white sky … … winter is coming …

  226. el gordo permalink
    December 20, 2012 11:34 am

    Ali is mixing his faiths, bejesus and gaia, a diabolical mix.

  227. armchair opinionator permalink
    December 20, 2012 1:22 pm

    you’re right about the profit ali

  228. TB Queensland permalink
    December 20, 2012 3:39 pm

    Yeah, I giggled at that … and showed my 14 yo g/son – explained the benefits of good spelling and credibility … great learning tool …

  229. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 20, 2012 3:49 pm

    Ali seems really nice, but I don’t think there’s life on the sun. But I might be wrong.

  230. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 20, 2012 5:41 pm

    “Also if we don’t start to listen to our past profits,….”

    Dear Ali,

    Past profits should not be used as a guarantee of future performance. They should only be used as a guide to future performance.

    In future rather than rely on “past profits” it would be prudent to also take into account brokers’ consensus estimates as to future earnings and the general macro economic outlook.

  231. el gordo permalink
    December 20, 2012 5:56 pm

    🙂 I’ll pay that 2d.

  232. TB Queensland permalink
    December 20, 2012 6:32 pm

    I’ll pay that 2d.

    Probably one of the reasons your broke, egg … paying for shoddy goods …

    … I notice, Toady, mentions nothing of entry and exit fees, trailing commission and charges … typical omission of shonks and Dodgy Bros Accounting at Home online DIY packages …

  233. December 20, 2012 8:16 pm

    “Past profits should not be used as a guarantee of future performance. They should only be used as a guide to future performance.”

    Guffaw….

    The great anomaly of the financial planning “profession”…

  234. The Professor of Palm Beach permalink
    December 20, 2012 10:17 pm

    I don’t do financial planning . You need a licence.

    It’s complicated the way the world works

    Ask sancty about it

    I concentrate on ripping off ex board members of public companies who have now retired. They used to rip everybody off so I’m getting your revenge.

    I actually provide a community service ya know.

  235. The Professor of Palm Beach permalink
    December 20, 2012 10:20 pm

    “… I notice, Toady, mentions nothing of entry and exit fees, trailing commission and charges … typical omission of shonks and Dodgy Bros Accounting at Home online DIY packages …”

    Accountants are not allowed to charge trailers of exit fees.

    It’s a noble profession …….LOL

    We leave that stuff to financial advisors who require a different licence.
    ..

  236. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2012 10:03 am

    I don’t do financial planning . You need a licence.

    I know, no-one said you did … so much for “licences” … it’s like giving thief a licence to steal …

    It’s complicated the way the world works

    Is it? Tell me something I don’t know …

    Ask sancty about it

    I’ll leave that to you … the blind leading the blind, methinks … James Farnham entertainer extraordinaire …

    I concentrate on ripping off ex board members of public companies who have now retired. They used to rip everybody off so I’m getting your revenge.

    Nah, that’s just “joining the club” … but I can see you enjoying the “rip off” …

    I actually provide a community service ya know.

    What a fkn nightmare … your mind must be a scary place …

    Accountants are not allowed to charge trailers of exit fees.

    I know that too … assuming its “or” exit fees … I don’t know what a “trailer of an exit fee” is …

    It’s a noble profession …….LOL

    What an odd choice of words, Toady … noble … but then you probably gag on saying or writing, “honest” ..

    We leave that stuff to financial advisors who require a different licence.
    ..

    Yeah, I’ve noticed how licencing anyone who plays with other people’s money works really, really well … and how the history of poor financial advise from anyone with a licence in the finance industry continually recycles its own $#!t … with other people’s hard earned cash …

    Parasites … spring to mind …

  237. el gordo permalink
    December 21, 2012 10:15 am

    ‘What a fkn nightmare … your mind must be a scary place …’

    Hahaha….

  238. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 21, 2012 10:19 am

    That’s nice TB

    Banks have licences as the are RBA approved.

    Banks employ financial advisers many of whom are licenced

    Where is your money right now ?

    LOL

  239. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2012 12:07 pm

    What a dumbfuck … tell me something I don’t know, yer Wally … ANYWHERE you put money is licenced … and they are all fkn shony … that was my point …

    … please pass the drill, nurse …

  240. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2012 12:07 pm

    Correction: shony = SHONKY!

  241. 2DT Shock Jock permalink
    December 21, 2012 1:03 pm

    So let me get this straight………..

    You wont go near the share market because of lingering fears and you don’t like financial advisors but you lodge your money with a Bank(s) which employs thousands of them.

    The Bank is also now government guaranteed thanks to the GFC so effectively it CANNOT GO BROKE.

    The Bank pays you ……………what ?……………………4.5% if you are lucky and depending on your circumstances you get taxed on that full 4.5% even when inflation is say 3%.

    You don’t want to eat into your capital so you try and exist on that after tax 4.5%

    The Bank then lends out YOUR money at 9% to a business or 6.5% to a homeowner.

    Each of the financial advisers employed by the Bank gets a huge salary (thanks to YOUR money) plus a bit FAT and F**KING OBSCENE juicy bonus (which was probably directly credited into their accounts last night just in time for Christmas).

    One of the guys looking after YOUR money is called Beau.

    Beau is 22 years old has just graduated from Uni, has a face full of pimples, is a NSW Blues supporter, has a weekend cocaine habit, and has a girlfriend whose name is Bree and he drives a BMW convertible. They live in a sub penthouse at Drummoyne with views over Sydney Harbour with their pedigree poodle called Oscar. During the Christmas break they plan to put Oscar into Doggy Daycare at $120 per day and fly off to Aspen for Christmas Day and some skiing.

    They don’t know you from any other sucker and they never send you a Christmas Card

    Now let me leave you with this……………….

    ANZ Bank fully franked dividend payments on a cents per share basis for the last 6 years and effective yield grossed up for franking.

    2012-09-30 145.0 $23.00 9.0%
    2011-09-30 140.0 $23.00 8.7%
    2010-09-30 126.0 $23.00 7.8%
    2009-09-30 102.0 $18.00 8.1%
    2008-09-30 136.0 $20.00 9.7%
    2007-09-30 136.0 $25.00 7.8%

    What were you saying about someone being a dumbfuck ?

    LOL

  242. December 21, 2012 1:11 pm

    What has all this got to do with Mars I ask.

  243. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2012 1:48 pm

    You wont go near the share market because of lingering fears and you don’t like financial advisors but you lodge your money with a Bank(s) which employs thousands of them. etc

    WTF are you rambling about … in fact every “assumption” you’ve made concerning any investment stategy I may have is wrong … and you rubbish swan?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    sreb, What has all this got to do with Mars I ask.

    It doesn’t, but it does have a lot to do with Phat Prophets making fat profits …

    Are we off topic or somefin’ …

  244. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2012 4:30 pm

    What were you saying about someone being a dumbfuck ?

    I repeat … ANYWHERE you put money is licenced … including the ASX …

  245. TB Queensland permalink
    December 21, 2012 4:30 pm

    Even on Mars (OK, sreb?)

  246. March 13, 2013 11:29 am

    Never believe TV
    Everything is a distraction to the NWO
    Time is running out for Hollywood
    Time is running out for anyone involved in 9/11 scam

    That is why the jewb’s are trying to poison the entire world with aerosol spraying

    Robert Blake just quit poopy pope job because he was caught… Thanks to the wonderful work of well aware

    Time to catch them all involved and hog tie Em all…

    Time is coming very soon

    Watch and see

    Now who’s going to be scared???

    Not me… I can read through it all…

    Go to Alan Watts YouTube… Watch and listen to every video made or even buy his books and learn a wealth of knowledge.

    You will see and hear what you want for TRUTH…

    And nothing but the TRUTH

  247. Andrea Lemon permalink
    March 18, 2013 7:01 pm

    Destroy Christianity ? ….Christianity is not a threat to scientific research to the point where they feel the need to spend billions on a fake mars landing. Scientists actually do intense research to discover new things or improve certain ideas, why in the world would they care about Christianity? If religion really bothered them they would not target just Christianity but the hundreds of other religions as well. Scientists do not want to eliminate the belief of god in the world, they just do their research and tests and discover new things, maybe that research leads to proof that a deity indeed does exist maybe it leads to another path proofing god doesn’t exist either way, they don’t give a crap about Christianity or any other religion, some scientists might even belong to a religious group. If the videos of the rover are indeed fake, it wouldn’t be to eliminate Christianity but maybe to show which country is superior/more advanced . In all honesty I still believe the rover did indeed land on mars

  248. March 18, 2013 7:22 pm

    Andrea makes a lot of sense.

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  250. Anon permalink
    May 2, 2013 8:52 am

    I don’t think you need to worry about being shut down. To copy images from google and use them out of context to back up gibberish is not against the law.

  251. TB Queensland permalink
    May 2, 2013 9:56 am

    Gibberish! LOL! How little some people know … 😉

  252. May 2, 2013 12:14 pm

    The unbelievers will be first up against the wall, when Jesus (bless him) finally returns for a holiday in his golden fleece.

  253. Johnny bottom permalink
    May 21, 2013 12:35 am

    If you’ve even taken one class in physics or astronomy you’d know every thing you’ve said is incorrect and/or exaggerated. Also to state you can’t have god with science is ignorant. They can go hand in hand. Finally the bible is astrology. Jesus represents the sun. Look up Horus the Egyptian profit with the exact same story as Jesus, written 3500 bc…. (That’s before Jesus) what if its you living inside the hoax? Oh wait it is. Just depressing people are this naive and ignorant.

  254. egg permalink
    May 21, 2013 7:20 am

    ‘…what if its you living inside the hoax?’

    The thought has fleetingly crossed my mind.

  255. TB Queensland permalink
    May 21, 2013 10:33 am

    … Horus the Egyptian profit with the exact same story

    😯

    Lost me with that phrase … Jb was doing so well until then …

    Matrix extender …

  256. Wealth Crazed Prick permalink
    May 21, 2013 10:41 am

    Did somebody mention profit????

  257. June 2, 2013 7:44 am

    lmao you guys are all fucking retarded, watch the movie zeitgeist and see how your relgion is.

  258. egg permalink
    June 2, 2013 8:32 am

    Thanx ed, speaking on behalf of my associates here…..we don’t take ourselves too. seriously

  259. Dale permalink
    December 28, 2013 4:46 pm

    Hah. Your hamster definetely fell off it’s wheel.

  260. December 28, 2013 5:59 pm

    Dale, the wheels are off of your pisstake-detection equipment.

  261. Tom of Melbourne permalink
    December 28, 2013 11:13 pm

    A year and a half since this thread started. It must be a popular search topic.

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  265. egg permalink
    March 2, 2014 1:29 pm

    ‘UFO hunters believe that may have found evidence of a UFO streaking through the sky – on Mars.’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2547769/Has-Nasa-spotted-UFO-MARS-Rover-images-reveals-conical-object-streaking-sky.html#ixzz2uli9zNsf
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  266. Sight permalink
    March 9, 2014 2:44 am

    You guys are the devils behind your own myth, the ones preventing the truth by believing in a lie, preventing the progression of Humanity. Wake up and stop believing in imaginary sky people and look at the FACTS.

    And they say conspiracy theorists are nuts, RELIGIOUS conspiracy theorists are utterly backwards.

    The Devil came to you and called himself God. That is why you people push all manner of prevention mechanisms on others, to stop the revelation of your own lies and revealing that Religion is a control system for the ignorant, heaven forbid you want that way of life taken, forfend you should ever think your own thoughts.
    You try to stop science and actual intellectual progression, by spreading guilt and claiming to be “persecuted”.

    You don’t know the first thing about persecution.

    They’re probably trying to cut your funding because your lies are dangerous and clouding the actual, true truth.

  267. egg permalink
    March 9, 2014 7:30 am

    ‘The Devil came to you and called himself God.’

    That would be the antichrist, we don’t see much of him around here.

    ‘Religion is a control system for the ignorant,’

    tru dat

  268. March 9, 2014 7:51 am

    When l see the theaten levels and religion loaded comments of magnificent bastards such as yourself `sight`, l can only conclude that your dog will not be letting the predator primates out of this solar system, to pollute the rest of dog`s universe.

  269. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2014 9:30 am

    Sight makes a lot of sense … to someone?

    Thanks carbon steel flange manufacturer – I’ll keep that in mind … 😯

  270. TB Queensland permalink
    April 23, 2014 9:32 am

    Contact Person: Mr. Jack Song

    Jack’s spidering WordPress methinks …

  271. May 22, 2014 9:24 am

    I do feel a sense of satisfaction when we are quoted on a “”Bible Believers” website as a source of truth…..

    🙂

  272. dMeo permalink
    May 28, 2014 7:15 am

    “Origin of ALL secret society. Venus was created 4000 B.C.,Mars depleted,Moon deposits,Jupiter – Great Red Spot”
    origins of ALL High Level (Plato’s republic(distorted)) luciferian conspiracy power groups.

    Basically, Immanuel Velikovsky’s most famous book (1950) “Worlds in Collision ” where he postulated that the planet Venus was created out of a collision with Jupiter.
    Well, A Physicist John Ackerman http://www.firmament-chaos.com/

    Cyclic Catastrophism Audios 1, 2, 3, 4 with Images

    Cyclic Catastrophism Audios 1, 2, 3 with Images

    note: 3 of 4 books are freely downloadable. Chaos 8.5/11″ ,Firmament 8.5/11″ , Peleh, &Egyptian Astrophysics.
    has greatly expanded on Velikovsky’s work which he identifies as the *The Velikovsky/Ackerman Scenario — Catastrophism .

    *My quick interpretation relating to the luciferian ideology is that after and during the TRAUMATIC destruction of 10,000 B.C. and the 100 cycles between 4000 B.C. (Masonic year 0) – 687 B.C the priesthood / Oligarchy of the time had studied mankind to such an extent that the origins of psychological warfare, sciences, religions, and ideologies developed.
    Subliminals relating to the Oligarchy created luciferian philosophy are in most movies today.
    This really is the KEY to understanding much of why the world is in such turmoil.
    Another interview with John can be found by searching for: John Ackerman.1 of 2 StenchOfTruth.mp3

    p.s. After a basic graphic is created to illustrate the interactions it will be up to the public to conceive ( By thinking ) how the power structures on earth would have evolved to control man kind.

  273. richiebogie permalink
    August 31, 2014 12:25 am

    Another reason the rover is not on Mars is because of flaws in the story of how it landed there.

    We are told the Martian surface atmosphere is thin – equivalent to 30km above Earth.

    We are also told the rover slowed using a parachute… but it would be arriving at speeds in excess of 23000km/hr!

    Without retrorockets, all that relative kinetic energy must be turned to heat before a parachute is deployed. Recall the space shuttle tiles getting white hot due to slowing and atmospheric friction? Even with wings and thermal tiles the shuttle was going too fast for a parachute at 30km altitude. It was still supersonic at very low altitudes…

  274. public toilet permalink
    September 21, 2014 3:01 am

    This is the thread which refuses to die.

    Cranks & spambots flock to it…

  275. September 21, 2014 6:33 am

    Boss – it’s been the most popular thread ever!

  276. public toilet permalink
    September 21, 2014 6:56 am

    Hahaha…says heaps about the mentality of the interwebz…

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